Defense leaders meet amid dissent over tanks for Ukraine

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By LOLITA C. BALDOR and TARA COPP

Associated Press

Jan. 20, 2023 Updated 6:23 AM PT

RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany — Defense leaders gathered at a U.S. air base in Germany heard an impassioned plea for more aid Friday from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as they struggled to resolve ongoing dissent over providing battle tanks and other military aid to his embattled country.

It did not appear, at least early in the meeting, that the debate was resolved, but Germany’s new defense minister suggested that issue was inching forward. Germany has so far resisted mounting pressure to quickly supply Leopard 2 tanks to Kyiv, or at least clear the way for other countries, such as Poland, to deliver the German-made Leopards from their own stocks.

Speaking to reporters outside the conference hall at midday, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said that, while there was no agreement yet, “we will make our decisions as soon as possible.”

He said he has ordered his ministry to look into the tank stocks Germany has so that he can be prepared for a possible green light and to “act immediately.” Pistorius added that Germany would “balance all the pros and contras before we decide things like that just like that. … I am very sure that there will be a decision in the short term, but … I don’t know how the decision will look.”

Zelensky, speaking live via video link, told the gathering that “terror does not allow for discussion.” He said that “the war started by Russia does not allow delays.”

And as the conference began, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III warned that “this is a crucial moment. Russia is regrouping, recruiting and trying to re-equip.”

Austin said that now is a decisive moment for Ukraine and a “decisive decade for the world,” adding that the group’s presence in Germany signaled its unity and commitment to continue supporting Ukraine.

“We need to keep up our momentum and our resolve. We need to dig even deeper,” Austin told the gathering of as many as 50 defense leaders who were attending in person and by video.

A Kremlin spokesman said the deployment of Western tanks would trigger “unambiguously negative” consequences.

“All these tanks will require both maintenance and repairs, and so on, so [sending them] will add to Ukraine’s problems but will not change anything with regard to the Russian side achieving its goals,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said during a media briefing Friday.

Austin and U.S. Army Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were expected to discuss the latest massive package of aid the U.S. is sending, which totals $2.5 billion and includes Stryker armored vehicles for the first time.

The U.S. has also declined, at least so far, to provide M1 Abrams tanks, citing the extensive and complex maintenance and logistical challenges with the high-tech vehicle. The U.S. believes it would be more productive to send Leopards since many allies have them and Ukrainian troops would have to get trained only on that one, as opposed to needing far more training on the more difficult Abrams.

Britain announced last week that it would send Challenger 2 tanks, describing it as a natural progression of military aid to Ukraine.

At a Pentagon briefing Thursday, spokeswoman Sabrina Singh said the Leopard and Challenger aren’t comparable to the Abrams tanks because the Abrams is much harder to maintain and wouldn’t be a good fit.

“This is a tank that requires jet fuel, whereas the Leopard and the Challenger, it’s a different engine” and they are “a little bit easier to maintain,” Singh said. “They can maneuver across large portions of territory before they need to refuel. The maintenance and the high cost that it would take to maintain an Abrams — it just doesn’t make sense to provide that to the Ukrainians at this moment.”

The latest package of U.S. aid includes eight Avenger air defense systems, 350 Humvees, 53 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, more than 100,000 rounds of artillery ammunition and rockets, and missiles for the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System. It was announced Thursday by the Pentagon.

Other pledges announced ahead of the Ramstein meeting included S-60 anti-aircraft guns from Poland with 70,000 rounds of ammunition, additional Stinger air-defense systems and two M-17 helicopters from Latvia, and two Russian-made Mi-8 helicopters and dozens of L-70 anti-aircraft guns with ammunition from Lithuania.

Nearly 11 months into the Russian invasion, Zelensky has expressed frustration about not obtaining enough weaponry from the Western allies.

Speaking by video link on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum’s annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, on Wednesday, the Ukrainian leader offered a veiled critique of major supporters, such as Germany and the U.S., that have hesitated on sending tanks.

Bemoaning a “lack of specific weaponry,” Zelensky said, through an interpreter, that “there are times where we shouldn’t hesitate or we shouldn’t compare when someone says, ‘I will give tanks if someone else will also share his tanks.’”

German officials have conveyed their reluctance to allow allies to give Leopards unless the U.S. also sends Abrams tanks, according to a U.S. official who wasn’t authorized to comment and spoke on condition of anonymity. But there have been no signs that the U.S. is shifting its stance.

Pistorius, who took office Thursday just an hour before he met with Austin, said that opinions among allies were mixed on the tank issue, and added that “the impression that has occasionally arisen that there is a united coalition and Germany is standing in the way is wrong.”

Milley told reporters traveling with him this week that complex new U.S. training of Ukrainian troops, combined with an array of new weapons, artillery and armored vehicles heading to Ukraine, would be key to helping the country’s forces take back territory captured by Russia in the nearly 11-month-old war.

The goal, he said, is to deliver needed weapons and equipment to Ukraine so that the newly trained forces would be able to use them “sometime before the spring rains show up. That would be ideal.”

The influx of new weapons, tanks and armored carriers comes as Ukraine faces intense combat in the country’s east around the city of Bakhmut and the nearby salt-mining town of Soledar. The battles are expected to intensify in the spring.

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