âIâm so excited for this!â Chris Perfetti says as he approaches the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County. Our greeting is drowned out by a cacophony of nearby construction and clusters of energetic children on field trips shuffling down the pathway â in the distance, a row of yellow school buses that snake the perimeter stand guard.
Perfetti, in monochromatic black sweats, T-shirt and baseball cap, is just four steps into the rotunda, under the shadow of the museumâs famous Three Graces statue by Julia Bracken Wendt, when he is recognized.
âExcuse me, are you Chris Perfetti ... from âAbbott Elementaryâ?â a student from Lawndale High School asks bashfully.
âYeah,â Perfetti says with a smile.
âOh, wow! I love that show,â the teenager says, sharing an enthusiastic look with his classmate. âOur AP bio class is here on a field trip. Weâre seniors in high school. Iâm sorry to bother you. This is just so cool.â
âI was in AP bio for about a month,â Perfetti says. âCongratulations. Youâre so close to graduating. Just a couple of months to go. Stay motivated.â
The âAbbott Elementaryâ star opens up about her âroughâ path as a Black woman in show business â and now, at 65, enjoying the view from the top.
The scenario playing out in real life is something Perfettiâs âAbbott Elementaryâ character, the lovably corny, socially awkward history teacher Jacob Hill, would definitely freak out over. Teenagers thinking heâs cool? Heâd run to the teacherâs lounge to broadcast the news.
Created by Quinta Brunson, the mockumentary comedy follows a group of teachers trying to give their students the education they deserve at an underfunded primary school in West Philadelphia. The series features an ensemble cast â Brunson, Tyler James Williams, Janelle James, Lisa Ann Walter, William Stanford Davis and Sheryl Lee Ralph â in which every member delivers scene-stealing laughs. But Perfetti, who had performed mostly on stage in New York and in small roles on TV before being cast on the sitcom, has held his own â making Jacob, âAbbottâsâ equally sincere and absurd white liberal do-gooder, a fan favorite and meme king. During the showâs post-Oscars episode last month, for example, which looked at whether the schoolâs namesake was racist, Perfetti delivers a master class in instant GIF-ication, passionately shouting at one of Abbottâs descendants, âWhere were you on Jan. 6?!â
For the record:
11:52 a.m. April 10, 2024An earlier version of this story gave the title of a podcast as âThe Abbott Life.â It is âThis Abbott Life.â
But it doesnât stop there. The casual disclosure of Jacobâs idiosyncrasies across three seasons has brought hilarious depth to what could easily be a mere caricature of a well-intentioned ally. Heâs not the biggest fan of Chris Pratt. He admits to having applied to Morehouse, a historically Black college. He suspects his gluten intolerance is internalized white guilt. He listens to podcasts at triple speed when he isnât hosting his own, âThis Abbott Life.â Heâs an avid viewer of âThe Real Housewives of New Jersey.â He is awkward and overeager to please, but also a phenomenal friend with a heart of gold. And a good teacher.
âIt was easy to make Jacob annoying without any heart or ground to stand on, but in his audition, Chris really brought more heart to the character and warmth and honesty, which, to me, was more important than being funny and nailing the jokes,â Brunson says.
Perfetti offers this explanation for his understanding of the character: â[Brunson] had an idea for who these characters were, but also gave over permission for those people to just be those people. I trust that she saw in me where it could go, the kind of anchoring characteristics of what Jacob might be. At the end of the day, weâre trying to dupe you into thinking that this is real life. You need to have characters that seem real and flawed and multifaceted and ridiculous, otherwise, we wonât really care about their struggles. Itâs way more interesting for me to play a real person than a cartoon version of a person. The comedy in Jacob is sort of baked into really tragic circumstances; I kind of obsess myself with Jacobâs fears and desires and hope theyâll come out funny.â
At 35, Perfetti radiates the same curiosity and enthusiasm Jacob would while wandering through the museumâs Dinosaur Hall. As he cranes his neck to marvel at Thomas, the 34-foot-tall Tyrannosaurus rex that holds court in the middle of the room, I ask if he was a kid who went through a dinosaur phase. âI would venture to say Iâm still obsessed,â he says, making his way toward a massive triceratops skull nearby. âIâm watching this documentary series narrated by Morgan Freeman. Itâs called âLife on This Planet.â My Netflix queue is embarrassing. You would think I was a 90-year-old man. But the series is amazing. Itâs all about like the history of life on our planet and Iâm on an episode right now where heâs talking about if this huge meteor hadnât wiped these dudes out, we would not be here and thatâs probably something that I should already know from school, but itâs like amazing to hear it again.â
While the stars of âAbbott Elementaryâ pretend to teach onscreen, these real-life educators instruct the showâs child actors behind the scenes.
That inquisitiveness didnât necessarily make Perfetti a great student, however. âI just couldnât be bothered. School was a really mixed bag for me. The process of absorbing something to regurgitate it, I couldnât find a way into that. Thatâs why being here now is so amazing because, in my 30s, I feel like I have such a thirst for this.â
His study habits as a performer were more thoughtful, because the reward was in the self-discovery.
âI had a drama teacher who said that theater is not therapy,â Perfetti says. âAnd I remember understanding why she was saying that. But to be fair, it is kind of my therapy. I mean, therapy is also my therapy. But acting feels like the conduit through which I can experience being a human on this planet and understand what that is. And it is the greatest high I have ever felt. ... You kind of get to become an expert on everything. I remember when I was in drama school, being in the library and studying daily life in turn-of-the-century Russia â itâs like, âWhat the fâ am I doing?â I ate it up because I wanted to do it as opposed to just a couple years before where I didnât see my purpose.â
It all works to make Perfetti a scene partner who never fails to surprise, says Williams, who plays Jacobâs more sedate colleague, Gregory.
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âHe preps everything like he does with theater. He comes into rehearsal with his own idea of the melody of the scene, then he waits to see what others are doing around him to refine it down,â Williams says. âBut the energy that is Jacob is there from the start. I need time to ramp up, but Chris is already locked in from the first rehearsal. The best way I can describe it is, when I work with Chris, it feels like a jazz band that is just so perfectly in tune.â
Perfettiâs commitment to the character can often make it difficult to keep a straight face. While the actor insists heâs not a naturally funny person â he credits Jacobâs comic flare to whatâs written on the page and, maybe, the timing he honed on stage â Williams says the blooper reel proves otherwise.
âThereâs a thing where, especially in comedy, everybody knows what their joke is and can land it but then thereâs certain days where somebody is just hunting for a break,â he explains. âItâs definitely felt like heâs been hunting. Heâs broken me four or five times. In the episode where he dives into the trash can, that wasnât scripted, he just did that.
Perfetti, born and raised in upstate New York, glosses the origin story of these comedic gifts as the âstereotypicalâ tale of a kid desperate for peopleâs attention. A curiosity for theater that began in grade school turned into love â âfor what I deem are all the right reasons,â he says â as a student of the Conservatory of Theater at State University of New York at Purchase.
âIn drama school, youâre playing characters that you would absolutely never be cast as and youâre doing it for free and youâre doing it for fun,â he says. âSo I got really used to eating brown rice and sardines and not needing to make a lot of money and not really expecting validation from anybody else or expecting success in that way. To be fair, it wasnât long before I got my first job, but I certainly wouldnât have imagined that my life would look like this right now.â
Perfetti made his professional debut off-Broadway in 2011âs âSons of the Prophetâ; other notable credits include stage work in âPicnic,â âThe Tutorsâ and âThe Tempestâ and roles in film and TV shows such as âLooking,â âThe Night Ofâ and âCrossbones.â He was initially resistant to screen acting, though, saying it always felt elusive.
For creator-star Quinta Brunson, Janelle James, Sheryl Lee Ralph and Lisa Ann Walter, the series lets teachers be human. And as a result, âteachers are feeling seen, which is one of the best things about the show.â
âItâs a largely isolating and infinitely less collaborative medium,â he says. âThe actor is so in charge when theyâre in a play in a way that theyâre not in TV and film. ... Iâm a very theatrical person and I thought that that wouldnât necessarily translate to TV and film. But TV and film has become a pebble in my shoe. Itâs this thing that Iâm thinking about all the time.â
In spring 2020, while in Atlanta on a project, Perfetti received the pilot script for âAbbott Elementary.â
âI remember sitting on this park bench and people were doing laps walking by and I was laughing out loud reading each page,â he says. âI wanted to turn to somebody and be like, âThis is so great! You have to read this script!â I also remember thinking that nobody would make the show. It just seemed kind of like a secret.â
âAbbott Elementaryâ not only made it to TV, where it premiered on ABC in late 2021, it quickly became a sensation â a rare bright spot at a time when the industry was still reeling from the production havoc caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Itâs since received 15 Emmy nominations, with four wins, including the prize for comedy series in 2022, and has already been renewed for a fourth season. The security of being on a hit show allowed Perfetti to buy his first home.
âIt still feels completely surreal,â he says. âI sometimes think somebodyâs gonna come and say, âWe need you to go now, thank you for watering our plants.â ... Even in New York, where I feel very comfortable, I was always renting and nothing was ever mine. When you are really able to anchor yourself in a way that I feel sometimes now, I dunno, I feel like the world just kind of catches up with you when you least expect it.â
Sitcom success hasnât kept Perfetti from returning to the stage when time allows. After the first season of âAbbott Elementary,â he starred in a production of âKing James,â Rajiv Josephâs play about two men whose friendship develops over the course of 13 years in tandem with LeBron Jamesâ basketball career.
ââAbbott Elementaryâ had just premiered the first season and it was the biggest show on television,â says Glenn Davis, who starred opposite Perfetti. âThe show was getting so much attention and he is someone who handles it so well. ... His focus is probably the one thing that I really took away from him; whenever I was onstage with him, I never felt like he was distracted or was anywhere else but in that moment.â
Jacob holds Perfettiâs focus these days, and heâs excited to see how the character continues to change: Jacob recently ended his relationship with his boyfriend, allowing the series to explore how he navigates life as a single person, and as he nears his 30s heâs begun to evaluate his evolving ambitions as an educator.
âChris really harnesses a lot of that [character development] without even showing it and I think heâs so nuanced that his work goes unnoticed,â Brunson says. âAnd I hate that. I think heâs one of the most talented actors Iâve ever had the pleasure of watching, let alone being in a scene with, but heâs carrying so much with that character and making it look so easy.â
But there is recognition in the way that perhaps matters most to Perfetti â how the audience responds. While meandering toward the museumâs mammal exhibition, a field trip chaperone recognizes him and asks for a selfie while praising the show and his character. Itâs the sort of dynamic that still feels unexpected.
âThe the gift that keeps on giving from âAbbottâ is Iâm really used to working in a bubble and being in a room where the people who are receiving your work are there as youâre doing it,â he says, referring to the audience-actor relationship in theater. âAnd now thereâs like millions of people watching in their own room after Iâve done the thing, so Iâm less aware of how people respond to it sometimes.â
Talk about a grown-up field trip.
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