We asked J.B. Smoove about the George Floyd moment. Hear his extraordinary response

In the latest episode of The Times’ TV podcast, “Can’t Stop Watching,� host and staff writer Yvonne Villarreal asks “Curb Your Enthusiasm� star J.B. Smoove if he believes the George Floyd movement will create lasting change. Here’s the beginning of his remarkable 24-minute response:

It’s hard to have faith in complete change. It’s very hard, because it’s so anchored into the culture. It’s so anchored in, it’s a part of me. You talk about 2020: We’re dealing with the same things we’ve been dealing with all this time. It’s almost insulting, in a way, to be a person of color, because I consider Black people to have been here so long at this point it’s almost like — it’s not just things that you can pass through Congress or executive orders. ... If I gotta tell you every time what to do and what’s going to make me happy and make people happy, I feel like I’m force-feeding you. I’m forcing you to do something you really don’t want to do.

Listen to this special hourlong episode of “Can’t Stop Watching� to hear Smoove’s answer in its entirety, including why he recently apologized to his 26-year-old daughter for the state of the world, as well as how he envisions Larry David living in a pandemic. (It involves fighting over paper towels at Costco.) Plus, catch previous episodes with “The Morning Show’s� Gugu Mbatha-Raw, “Watchmen’s� Jean Smart and more.